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Talking Epic Content and the Evolution of an Industry: My Q&A With Joe Pulizzi

by Ann Handley  |  
September 27, 2013

My friend Joe Pulizzi today releases a new book on the evolution of content and marketing. Joe is the founder of the Content Marketing Institute, and his new book is called Epic Content Marketing: How to Tell a Different Story, Break through the Clutter, and Win More Customers by Marketing Less.

To me what's most significant about it is what's not in it, as much as what is in it.

Gone are the chapters explaining how the world has changed—how increasingly we need to be attracting customers to us instead of chasing after them—and explaining the value of content as a cornerstone of marketing. (All of that Joe covered in his previous book, and C.C. and I wrote about in Content Rules, too.)

You know how the first few chapters of a book so often always spill a lot of ink setting up the main point of the book itself—you know, the one you've already bought? Anyway, you don't have to worry about that in this case.

That's because the notion of content at the heart of marketing has evolved. Many marketers these days already have corporate buy-in for content marketing. They have resources and budget. They know they need to tell their story to connect with customers. Or, at the very least, marketers know they have to get there.

Of course, content marketing is still hard. It still requires a new way of thinking, new skills, and new processes. Or, as Joe says below, "Content marketing is still the oldest marketing discipline still in early adoption phase."

Here's our conversation...

We're riding in an elevator. Give me the we-only-have-a-few-floors value prop: What problem does Epic Content Marketing solve?

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Ann Handley is chief content officer of MarketingProfs, author of Everybody Writes: Your Go-To Guide to Ridiculously Good Content, and co-author of the best-selling book on content marketing, Content Rules. Ann co-founded, one of the first sources of interactive marketing news and commentary.

Twitter: @MarketingProfs and @AnnHandley.

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  • by Sunday Mon Sep 30, 2013 via web

    Well, the takes by Joe Pulizzi are understood. However, most of his responses are subjective. To begin with the concept of ďepicĒ as used in this interview makes it similar to creating good content with just an extra touch.

    In the Internet marketing social and news aggregator site -, this comment was left, even as this post about epic content was shared.

    Sunday- contributor

  • by KathyS Mon Sep 30, 2013 via web

    Ann, do you or any of your readers know of references or data sources showing the difference between human editor selected and published content via an RSS Feed vs automated algorithms? Any source links you can offer will be greatly appreciated. Is there a click through advantage when a human editor produces 3rd party sourced articles vs. keyword search automated feeds.

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