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Marketing A Book (fiction) - Canada And Us

Posted by Harp Arora on 250 Points
Hi all, I've been asked to help an author (my neighbour) get his recently published book into more bookstores across the Canada and US. He's not happy with sales so far and believes there is potential for bigger reach. I think it's self-published.

Topic is about an American who is drafted during Vietnam but refuses to go, leaves everything behind and exiles himself to Canada (OK, so this is loosely based on his own story). pretty timely and relevant topic right now with the Bush victory and Iraq situation

He's looked at working with a bigger firm but didn't feel a good fit (felt his book would get lost in the shuffle). I'm meeting with him tomorrow.

I own a marketing consulting company but my expertise lies in marketing to businesses and consumers - don't know a ton about publishing but would like to help him out. Since this is my neighbour, I want to be very fair in our arrangement, make sure we're both happy, and have every detail spelled out to ensure our relationship is not impacted.

I have some ideas on the marketing side but thought some of you may have expertise on the publishing front.

Does anyone know of typical compensation arrangements or percentages for doing this?

What questions do I need to ask him?

Where can I research industry practices and tips so I can build a plan?

Are there any good websites out there relating to this?

What else do I need to do or think about?

I'd like gather enough info that I can show up to our meeting with some thoughts around strategy and plan.

Thanks!
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  • Posted by SRyan ;] on Accepted
    The biggest favor you might do for you neighbour is NOT try to represent him.  Guide him in choosing someone ELSE who's got experience marketing books, and help him evaluate their proposal or contract with him.

    This may be in your own best interest.  Business relationships aren't easy between friends.  No matter how airtight your own signed agreement with him might be, if either of you perceives that something is wrong then you've got an awkward situation on your hands (especially if he lives next door!).

    I know that's not the answer you came here for...  but my experience is that it's not worth the risk!

    Best of luck,

    Shelley
  • Posted by SteveByrneMarketing on Accepted
    Good input from above. I agree with Shelley to “.. NOT try to represent him.” This is a special area of marketing where experience and contacts really matter.

    That said, I have two thoughts –

    - Look for print and online editors currently writing commentary about the draft and related issues. Send them a copy of the book and follow up. They might reference it in future writings.

    - Look for college professors who would be most likely to incorporate your book in a class with related to social issues.

    Hope this helps,

    - Steve
  • Posted on Accepted
    I have learned the publishing business the hard way ... as an author and marketing consultant, then as a publisher. There is so much to say and so little time.

    Let me start by saying that despite many years of hands-on marketing experience and a couple of books (as author), book marketing is another thing altogether. I took a seminar (from John Kremer) on book marketing. Here's my take on that:

    First, about 1/3 of the material is basic marketing that I could have taught as well as Kremer -- maybe better.

    Second, about 1/3 of the material is stuff I could have picked up over time -- perhaps after the 3rd or 4th book.

    Third, 1/3 of the material is so specific and unique to book marketing that I might never have figured it out.

    Net, you really need to have your neighbor consult with someone who knows the ropes when it comes to publishing. There are a couple of books I would suggest:

    "The Complete Guide To Self-Publishing," by Tom and Marilyn Ross -- Get the 4th edition.

    "1,001 Way to Market Your Book," by John Kremer.

    These two books are "must reads" if you're serious about marketing books.

    There are also a couple of truths you need to understand: (1) Books only sell when they are promoted; and (2) Only the author can effectively promote a book. Promotion is not the publisher's job, it's the author's job.

    I created and teach a course for wanna-be authors, and it's grown to a two-session, 5-6 hour workshop ... and even then it's hard to get all the relevant material crammed into that time. There's a lot to learn/know, and it's all important.

    I've also found a couple of very good book publicists, and I have stumbled into a few very effective promotion approaches that have proven successful for me. Not sure they will work in every situation, but worth considering. (Let me know privately, and I'll be glad to help if I can.)

    Finally, there is a great organization called the Publishers Marketing Association (PMA -- www.pmaonline.org) that every new author and/or self-publisher ought to join. They have a number of good programs, a great newsletter, and a community of folks who have been through the learning curve already.

    That's my quick overview answer. If you want more, let me know.
  • Posted by Harp Arora on Author
    Thanks everyone - there is some fabulous feedback here, lots of good thoughts to mull over. I'll keep checking in over the next day or two in case there are any additional comments.

    One thing I'll mention - this is in no way a done deal - I'll be finding out more information when we meet (e.g. what action has he taken so far and how successful has it been, whom has he contacted etc.). I've already mentioned to him that this is not my area of expertise and the first message I'll reiterate when we meet is that his best course of action is to find someone who specializes in this. That being said, I have a feeling he'll still want me to help - even if it's a few hours of consulting to build a marketing plan (which might include working with a publisher or publicist) that he can go away and implement.

    This happens to be the 3rd person whose asked me to help them market their self-published book. It's an area I definitely want to explore. From what I've seen so far, a lot of people write a book, don't understand anything about marketing, and think it will magically disappear from the shelves. Even if I can help him with some basic marketing suggestions (gratis) I'm happy - I'd really like to see him succeed.

    Last comment - surprisingly, many of my friends have now also become repeat clients - at first I was mortified by the idea of mixing business and personal relationships. It can be quite challenging to separate the relationships but good boundaries, honesty, directness, and frequent and effective communication have worked well for me and in some cases have brought about closer personal relationships. Touch wood. Thanks again for comments so far.





  • Posted by Harp Arora on Author
    Thanks to all of you for such valuable input....really appreciate your suggestions and comments...my perspective is much improved! ...Avalon

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