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Topic: Strategy

Big Commissions..big Points...help This Lady Sell

Posted by Anonymous on 2710 Points
One of my pro-bono type clients needs some big help. She invented a product that is really cool. It really works..
Go to [inactive link removed] to see the product. It's really great. They work to help organize every closet in the world.

From a retail clothier perspective, it is a way to present their clothing in a more professional way. It is a way to cross sell and up sell, by demonstrating various ensamble pieces at once. It saves space because you can hang 3-5 suits in the space of where one was once hang one one suit. Now you can hang 3-5 suits or outfits on one hangar, neatly and carefully.

Call Lisa Box...through me, at WMMA. It is a great product, recently patented. IF you have contacts in this area, I'll pay you loads of points for production. She'll pay you 20% commissions. Let's go all you marketing and sales guys. Here is a chance with a proprietary product to hit the marketplace first. We'll send em to you. But, get out there.

Don't tell me how to do it. DO IT. Go through your lists, call them, get an appointment, but the product in the store. When women see this...they freak out. I don't understand it...but they do.

I'll give a 2000 point bonus for a really big order. Now...get out there. You hollar fora good product....here's one. Go Go Go..

She has worked for three years to bring these to market, from one issue to another. She needs help. CAn you guys help sell these fo help her launch this amazing national product?



Randall
WMMA

Randall
WMMA

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  • Posted by Inbox_Interactive on Member
    Linky no worky.

    Correct URL?
  • Posted by Inbox_Interactive on Member
    Never mind...sorry. It's:
    https://www.smartspacinghangers.com/

  • Posted by Clive Fernandes on Member
    Dear Randall,

    I don't get it. All I see on the site is normal hangers with a knob placed on them to keep them spaced away from each other.

    Could you please explain how they save space as per your statement of now placing 3/5 suits instead of 1.

    Also, is she also looking at international markets?

    Regards,
    Clive Fernandes
    Clive Fernandes Consulting
  • Posted by darcy.moen on Member
    Randall,

    I've been looking for a product I could use in conjunction with my loyalty marketing programs for drycleaners. I think this system would be a very good fit.

    I can see four ways to sell these hangers.

    1) I'm going to pitch this product to Steve Boorstein, the Clothing Doctor (www.clothingdoctor.com) and see if he would like to add the product to his online store.

    2) my drycleaning clients are looking for neat items they can sell out of their drycleaning stores as retail items to their customers. I'll be contacting a few of my key clients to see if they would like to try a test run in theor stores.

    3) in conjunction with my loyalty program. I encourage my clients to use a loyalty program I've devised. For every X dollar spent in drycleaning, the customer receives Y in points. When the customer has collected 10 points, they can cash them in for one of these hangers. Keep collecting points, collect a complete set of hangers for your closet. Cleaner wins (more and repeat business), you win (sell more hangers), I win (more clients on program), customers win (better hanging clothes).

    Can you contact me via my profile to discuss?

    Darcy Moen
    Customer Loyalty Network
  • Posted by darcy.moen on Member
    Oh, forgot to add number four, I have some friends who sell internationally to drycleaners. I can make a few calls and see if they would add these to their offerings.

    Darcy
  • Posted on Accepted
    Just a flash of an idea.... regarding not the hanger, but the knob - make it cedar and you'll keep away moths, etc. But not the hanger, as it may leach into the fabric. I thought the home shopping network or QVC might be good outlets too.

    "Hang in there!"

    CVN
  • Posted on Member
    I jumped on the site and was thinking, "this is pretty cool," then I hit the price and the conservative in me clicked in. (I admit it - I'm cheap!) I can deal with lots of tangled hangers for that price.

    I know your instructions were to "do it" - but I'm in health care, so I'll let somebody else do it - I wonder if Lisa can partner with a high-end dress company, or suit company that sells their product on her hangers. Maybe, as a starter, she becomes a supplier to the garment industry rather than to the consumer. Of course, when the customer buys their beautiful clothing on Rodeo Drive on these hangers (giving the garment value added positioning), they'll just have to have more hangers for all the other dresses in their closet. Maybe the hangers are only available through high-end retailers.

    Just another idea.

    CVN
  • Posted on Accepted
    FWIW, I agree with CVN: The cost is pretty steep for the benefit ... at least for most folks. Have you done any consumer research to see how the target audience reacts to the value proposition and how much they might pay for this solution? (Who IS the target audience anyway?)

    I'm not a big fan of market research approaches to pricing, but this is one case where there's a lot of evidence that people are not willing to spend much to get their closets neat, and then you come along with a proposition that could cost hundreds of dollars. I'm wondering if the problem you're trying to solve -- the BENEFIT -- is really important to end-users/consumers.

    As you so often note, it doesn't matter how well the product works. It's all about satisfying an important unmet consumer need. And those needs are in the minds of the consumers, not in the product or in your client's executive suite.

    My hypothesis is that this product may not address a very important consumer need. There could be a small niche somewhere, but probably not a mass market audience for this -- your enthusiasm for the concept notwithstanding.

    The challenge should be identifying the very narrow target audience for whom messy closets are a serious problem ... one for which they would pay a few hundred dollars and who don't want to install a traditional closet organizer (a la California Closets, et al.).



  • Posted by darcy.moen on Accepted
    I have to respectfully disagree with the comments about price above.

    My friend, Steve Boorstein, the Clothing Doctor, sells specialized plastic hangers in his online store here: https://www.clothingdoctor.com/hangers.html

    The plastic hangers for suits and skirts Steve sells are around 30 dollars for 12 hangers.

    Plastic hangers have one 'perceived' price, wood hangers with a spacer, another. Comparing the two, I perceive wood as more expensive to produce than plastic, thus, I would expect wood hangers to cost more.

    It comes down to perceived value.

    If I can use these hangers as part of my loyalty marketing system with my drycleaner clients, the 'perceived value' of would be more.

    I plan to offer these hangers like this: customer comes into a drycleaner and picks up their order. For every ten dollars in drycleaning spent, the customer would receive one point. The customer collects ten points, and they would get one hanger and one spacer. Mathematically, the hanger would cost $100.00 Kinda changes the perspective on my friend's Steve's prices now, doesn't it?

    I think that even at 100 dollars for a hanger, they will be considered 'worth it' from customers. It's something extra just for doing business with a good drycleaner. It's something a customer can use, it's something 'different' and can't be easily found on the store shelves, and because it's practical AND useful, I suspect they will be highly collectible because it's money heavy consumer's of drycleaning would be spending anyway. Once you try one out, you will want more. Since you are getting it 'for free' from money you'd spend on drycleaning anyway, well, may as well collect a complete set for the master bed room. Then, start on the hubby's clothes, the oldest daughter, etc, etc, etc.

    The added bonus of having better hanging clothes and an organized closet, well, its an appreciated extra.

    Since high consumers of drycleaning would also be a target market for these hangers, I see a natural fit. I know a few couture cleaners like my friends around the world at www.leadingcleaners.com and www.madamepaulette.com in New York DEFINATELY have clientele who would love this hanger, maybe even as one to replace their regular hangers used in the plant.

    Darcy Moen
    Customer Loyalty Network

  • Posted by Chris Blackman on Accepted
    Randall

    Are they looking to export?

    I have a friend who is a designer of wardrobe, cupboard and closet space at https://www.creativebydesign.com.au/ and I will share this product with her. I'm sure she'll love it.

    ChrisB

  • Posted by Chris Blackman on Member
    Randall

    Have passed the info onto my contact and will await her reply. If they are interested I'll contact you direct.

    Strikes me that manufacture under license might be the way to go for export markets. Is the device patented, design registered, or similarly protected?

    Chris

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