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Topic: Strategy

Salesman's Pitch To An Academic?

Posted by Anonymous on 50 Points
2 ASSociates = BOTH Academics/both PHDs (both NEVER been outside the bosom of a small, liberal arts college environment), insist that academics cannot be swayed or influenced by non-academic-type communication and shameless sales pitches! EXAMPLE: a salutation on an email must ALWAYS appear and must nearly ALWAYS be something like: "Esteemed Colleague." A simple Hi or Hello (or, Gulp, NO salutation at all) will be deleted and dispatched immediately.

ALSO, instead of saying something simply and efficiently, they insist that Academics only respond to the "therefores" the "heretofores" and the "whereasis" - each BIG word must occupy an appropriate number of key strokes in any email. They insist Academics do not respond like ANY human, and must be communicated to differently.

While some College Profs clearly have their collective heads up their respective asses, can anyone help me reach these people? Are Academics and Faculty Members THAT "different" from you and me? ANYone have any data or, stories to share :)
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  • Posted by CarolBlaha on Accepted
    Academics who haven't been in the outside world do get a bit full of themselves. Think of the ego trip, everyday students file in -- looking for their words of wisdom. But just as there are good teachers and bad-- I wouldn't lump all in the same basket. And two opinions do not mean a whole lot.

    But, as an aside-- a simple salutation is just good manners. And you always want to write on the level of the reader. This doesn't mean 50cent words-- but they respect intelligent communication.
  • Posted on Author
    Thank you, Phil. You definitely understand my challenge....but I can't walk away from the audience. I MUST convince them to do something they definitely DON'T want to do: help their students: www.iOmechallenge.org.

    And thank you Carol, but my communication is fairly sophisticated and generally quite intelligent...but it's simple words and concise. THEIR arguement is: THAT doesn't work with Academics! My arguement back is, "Academics are people, too?"
  • Posted by CarolBlaha on Accepted
    Just go for it. You can easily find yourself in "analysis paralysis" listening to a couple critics. My daughter just graduated from Fiance (suma cum laude) and she had teachers that had her in tears-- and those she walk thru hot coals to be at class. But lose the word "pitch" that is for baseball.

    It may be a hard sell, after all these profs feel they are overworked and add the big ego. But if I understand this, it sounds to me like a real project that can give the student a leg up over competition for a job. For example, my daugther headed a group that got to invest, and report to the dean a $100K grant. That practical experience got her into a job quicker than many of her cohorts. It may take awhile, but find a champion -- maybe thru a student? After all they are the ones who'll benefit.
  • Posted on Author
    We're trying both ends: Students and Profs. We DO have 35 teams SO far (including Harvard, U of Michigan, USAFA...), but we'd like a few more. We've already formally communicated 2X with 5000 Academics = with mixed results. I wanted to hit them ONE LAST TIME before our deadline arrives with a new message = less formal, and harder hitting... see if I could get a reaction. The chairman of the board (one of the PhDs), wouldn't stand for it!

    And Students? Well, they're an elusive target; hard to find/reach. We thought it best to focus on faculty. Time is running out. Thank you for your input.



  • Posted by Jay Hamilton-Roth on Accepted
    Instead of blasting another message, have you tailored the message to their department? If you haven't, then you will come across as just another sales message to be ignored. If instead, you understand the teachers' needs in the department (and those of their students), you have a chance to communicate effectively with them.

    The salutation may be important for some people (if you haven't split-tested your copy, now's a good time to do so), but focus your message on the clear benefit that they will get (i.e., get to the point).
  • Posted by steven.alker on Accepted
    And an inherent belief in form and vocabulary usually make them susceptible to every snake-oil salesman in the circuit as long as he starts his address with Dear Dr - or Dear Professor -

    Next come the questions which attract suitably involved answers. All you have to do is understand them. Next come the leading questions which follow like a tedious argument of insidious intent to lead you to an overwhelming question - - (You could finish for them but let them do the clever bit - it’s better the words come from their own mouths. – Its “Oh, do not ask what is it. Let us go and make our visit.”

    Then it’s the trial close, neatly trapping them by their own answers and finally the close. Bang! One more gallon of snake-oil for the department, the same as last year.

    Then there is that academic terminology which makes a paper about nothing appear to look like a paper about very little, but at least its one with a long title. You can ask them about that and by repeating the twaddle which heads the abstract. You will be assumed to understand exactly what they are on about. Encore, more questions, more trial closes and more closes.

    Why on earth do you think that University science departments are stocked with equipment which ranges from trash unfit for purpose to that which is so over specified as to have a couple of redundant decimal places in it’s accuracy?

    It is because the sales people who closed the deals asked the appropriate questions, let the academics show off a bit and then closed them as they would have closed a hard bitten production manager (Who is also a graduate but earns 100 times as much!)

    Don’t lose the sales plot – it applies in academe. I’m on the general council of my University and can attest first hand to the susceptibility of academics to sales psychology.

    Steve Alker
    Xspirt
  • Posted by michael on Accepted
    Michael,
    Strange. I have a different experience when marketing to them. I follow more along the lines of what Jay says. They are very targeted, very personalized and very time consuming. BUT, the results are good.

    Once you're past that, my experience is that they drop all the snootiness and become human beings.

    Michael
  • Posted by Gary Bloomer on Accepted
    Dear Michael,

    I feel your pain. I've worked with the "real-world" challenged of the super educated elite for 25 years.

    I have no masters. No MBA. No doctorate. Nor do I have an axe to grind, although I will say this: academicas are, on the whole split into two camps—good and bad.

    The good?

    They're sublime to work with. They get it.

    I once had the pleasure of working with (albeit briefly), the British naturalist and TV presenter, Sir David Attenborough, brother of the famous movie director.

    David was a gem! The NICEST guy. Even now, 14 years later, the memories STILL make me BEAM.

    Then, there are the black lords. Oh Christ. Give me strength!

    How do you sell to these people?

    Use peer pressure. Get testimonials from OTHER academics who HAVE signed up. Use people in the same field, from better schools. This will drive these nongs INSANE!

    (Marcus, I'm a Brit living in the US. Never heard the word NONG before today. Looked it up. I agree. TOTAL NONGS! Love it!).

    Or, be direct. Tell them this is what you've got, this is what ti does, this is what it's FOR, and this is what it will take or cost to make it happen.

    Facts. Just the facts. Your sales copy? Strip it to its BARE BONES.

    I hope this helps.

    Gary Bloomer
    Wilmington, DE, USA


  • Posted by steven.alker on Accepted
    Gosh – having two Michaels is somewhat confusing!

    My experience with academics has been across the board but mainly with researchers in pharmacology, toxicology, biochemistry, genetics and psychology. Once you’ve identified who you want to pitch too, they are rather easier to close than commercial or industrial clients namely because they also work as logically as any 6 questions / trial close / close / sale salesperson does.

    The reason why I said that they are susceptible to good sales technique is because they are not looking to be evasive and are usually not trained in the art of buying as a science - they just want to get on with their work and if anything tend to accept a sales close somewhat earlier than they should – hence the trashy or over expensive equipment.

    There’s another advantage in selling to academe – namely they nearly all have personal websites which are hosted on their University’s rather magnificent website so if you are wanting to sell one-to-one, you can research your target before-hand quite easily. The reason why I found many of them gullible was because once I had read up on their current work; I could talk to them about it. One of my sales people was just as effective without understanding much more than about 10% of their subjects because he quoted their latest papers and then told them that it was beyond his pay scale to make sense of it but that he could certainly see where his equipment might fit into their research plans.

    And yes, they are proud of having got a Masters or a PhD or a Professorship and like you to use the correct title. PhD’s are easy because you never make a gender mistake or offend a woman over her marital status. Professors appear in the ration of 100 of the others to every professor (In the UK they do) and if you are writing to them, its worth your while researching their preferred title.

    As far as “esteemed colleague is concerned” – as Marcus said, it is both factually incorrect and Dickensian – it is however quite popular in ex-British colonies such as India or Pakistan. Maybe the same applies to the USA!

    For this project, I would capitalise on the fact that you can identify with ease the people you need to reach out to and then do it in whatever language you like. I put over 700 academics onto our company’s database by using a life-science intern to look them all up. They were great but the biggest barrier to them buying anything as not anything I chose to call them but the restrictions on their budget. I foresaw that and used them as a doorway to their commercial collaborators in the pharmaceutical and chemical industries who were very hard to identify but had oodles of money to buy all the equipment they wanted. Felt a bit like a marriage broker after that year!

    Your not alone in having colleagues who don't get the sale side of the story - my boss was always castigating me for networking at breakfast at symposia and actually selling things to people off our stand!


    Steve Alker
  • Posted on Author
    Sorry I haven't gotten back to ANY of you on this. I've been weeping.

    On Friday, "We" sent a Nong Generated email to the 5000 Econ and PolSci Professors/Faculty we're trying to pitch/cajole/influence...They rejected my 107-word missive in favor of 240-word dissertation in the Language of the Nong. They also decide to spell like a Nong, too: including words common among Academics = nenowned (instead of renowned), "honorariam," and they even managed to screw up the name of our EFFEN 'Challege!! (But what the hell do I know...I could not, under any circumstance or methodology be considered an "academic.")

    Luckily, I caught the "spelling error" as they just started sending the email to the first thousand or so nongs. (As the PR Guy, I begged to be copied on any correspondence... WHEW!). Anyway, I read them the riot act - and they reacted negatively. (Imagine!) (Well, I DO admit I might have been a little harsh in my assessment of their prose, but HEY, MY NAME IS ON THIS PROJECT, TOO!) Anyway, they DIDN'T thank my for pointing out the typos and then bitch-slapped me for suggesting their email was off target. It was 5PM. I closed my laptop and poured myself a stiff one.

    Later in the evening, after SEVERAL stiff ones, I returned to my laptop. I was in a good mood but a new email from the Nongs was in my in box. NENOWNED was still in it.

    At this point of the evening, I was feeling no pain and I shot back a non-academic reply... I urged them to consider a non Nong tongue, and speak to these people like, well, people.

    Dr Long Nong reminded me that he and Dr Ding Dong had 50+ years of experience communicating with academics, and that I should leave those duties to them.

    I poured another...and surfed the internet for porn. In the "mourning", I wept.

    Today, I seek no further counsel from my brothers and sisters. I surrender, but I THANK YOU SO MUCH for your imput - and thank you for teaching me a new word and a few new tricks, suggestions, whatever... I'd like to hang out with you guys more often. (Would you mind if I sent you the email addresses of Drs Nong and Dong? Be sure to address it: Dear ASSteemed Colleagues.)
  • Posted by CarolBlaha on Accepted
    50 years experience and no working knowledge of spell check. Makes me happy to be a dummy!

    Thanks for the update!
  • Posted on Author
    LOL! Let's have a good laugh again some time!

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