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Topic: Strategy

I've Got A Great Idea But Don't Know How To Start

Posted by Anonymous on 125 Points
Ive got an idea born out of necessity for a specified high-end market but don't know what to do with it. I've asked a few people in this field general questions on whether they think it would be marketable and most importantly SELLABLE and I've gotten 100% YES! I'm SO skittish on even mentioning what it is or how it's used for fear of the idea being stolen. This is the first place I've gone, so please bear with me on my evasiveness. I don't believe I will actually be able to manufacture the product as the materials would appear not available to the general public and some of the materials need to be very specific. If my name will be on this product, I want it to be the highest quality available...I don't want some fly-by-night company buying my idea from me for pennies on the dollar and then cutting corners to make it cheap. Again, this is an accessory for high end products and needs to be marketed and manufactured as such.
Sooo....can anyone help me in the right direction?
Thanks, in advance, for any assistance you may be able to proved. Oh, and thanks for being here in general!
~Vicki
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  • Posted by wnelson on Accepted
    Hi, Vicki, welcome to MarketingProfs KHE!

    You have a very common problem - I work with start-up entrepreneurs all the time. The first place to begin is where you landed - marketing. And marketing is the process, not "advertising" or "selling" as is how the term is used in common language. By this, I mean you must know who your customers are and what their needs are. Also, you have to know their "influencers" - the words and images that move them emotionally to a "buy" decision. You have to know your competition and how they satisfy the customers' needs - and more importantly, where they don't. And please don't say, "I have no competition because the product doesn't exist today!" Great situation if it was ever real, huh? It's not. You ALWAYS have competition. Either someone supplies the exact product, a substitute product, or you customers take care of the need on their own versus buying (or they don't know they have a need - which means you have to educate them on the need then on your product - that's a long selling cycle). You have to know where your target customers go to find out information about your product - i.e. what media influences them. With all that in place, then you can develop your strategies - brand strategy (and even if you're not going to promote like P&G - you still need to define your brand strategy or you will lose control as your customers define it!), product strategy (rarely is ONE product enough long term), and so forth.

    When you are doing the analysis above so you have data to build the strategies, you need to remember that if you want to know what your customers thing, ask them! In your case, as you asked people in the field general questions and they came back categorically with an opinion of "Yes, it's sellable," keep in mind that perhaps they aren't the ones buying, first, and second, it's easy for them to say this if they aren't asked to separate themselves from their money to answer the question! "Is is sellable" is different than "Would you pay $1000 for this?"

    With respect to the product, focus on emotional and functional benefits versus features. People buy on emotion, not features. If their pain isn't enough to want to separate themselves from their money to fix it, then your product fails.

    For manufacturing, you mention that the materials aren't easily procured. If that is the case, you will need to establish the pipeline for the tough-to-procure materials. You even may have to buy that material yourself and supply it to manufacturers.

    Controlling manufacturers' quality is an easy matter. You clearly define what you want and how to measure it and contractually hold them to the standard as a criteria for them being paid for product. In these cases, you are a "purchasing agent" and a "quality engineer." You need to know the parts or get someone to help you so you are able to fulfill this role.

    There are many roles you have to fill as you start your company. You are the COO, the marketing manager, the manufacturing manager, the finance manager...and you are the workers under each manager too. All these roles have to be defined with responsibilities and measurements for you to be successful. Initially, this serves as a checklist for you to keep things straight. Later, you can use this to bring on people to help you. You will work IN your business - purchasing stuff, making stuff, selling stuff - all the activities that net you revenue. You also have to work ON your business - someone has to manage the business and measure it. You have to set goals and standards and make sure everything is happening in a controlled fashion. And then you have to work FOR your business - you have to spend some time thinking about where you want this business to go in the future and what you get out of it. Good balance of these three is key to NOT going belly up within five years - as 75% of all businesses historically do.

    If you need some more help, feel free to contact me - click on my name beside "posted by:" and you will see a link to my website. On there, it has contact information. As I said, this is what I do for a living - help entrepreneurs to be successful.

    Good luck! I hope this helps.

    Wayde
  • Posted by michael on Member
    "there is nothing new under the sun"---Solomon

    Vicki,

    If what you're thinking of is truly unique (never has been thought of before) you will spend more of your time trying to educate/convince people than you will trying to protect it.

    So, yes get a patent. Then develop an "educational" marketing campaign.

    Michael
  • Posted on Author
    You have all given me some excellent food for thought. Since my post here, I have done more research in the field to see if there is anything like my idea out there and there is not. There are items somewhat similar, but for totally different purposes. Even though it's been suggested that I may have trouble trusting others, it's more of a skepticizm than anything else....fear of losing the idea itself. It could very well be easier for me to patent and then sell the concept rather than concern myself with the manufacturing process. I've found 3 or 4 companies that could be good candidates to propose my idea to. The long and short of it is that this is an idea that will help elminate a very real issue in it's target market that could save thousands of dollars for the user over just a few years. Personally, I can't wait to see it come to fruition because I am one of those people that needs this product. After many discussions regarding this "problem", with others in my field, that's how I came up with the idea. So, with that being said, I'm gathering that a patent attorney should be my first step and then find a manufacturer willing to buy and market the concept. Is that correct? How does one put a price tag on and idea like that?
    ~Vicki
  • Posted by wnelson on Accepted
    Vicki,

    Intellectual property protection is always a good idea to protect yourself. Additionally, confidentiality agreements for anyone you discuss this idea with.

    With respect to how you put a price on an idea - the question that is more appropriate is how do you derive money from this idea. You can take this a couple ways. First, you can patent it and try to sell it to a company. With enough tries and some luck, you might find someone who will pay something. However, this is not the way to get the most money out of the idea. The most is gained from developing a business that proves the idea visibly, gain a significant foothold in the market, and then sell the company. You can do that a couple ways. First, you can raise the needed money yourself with your own money. This can be augmented with loans from a bank or friends and family. You can, instead or in conjunction with, go for government grants. Presuming you could raise enough capital this way, you totally own the company and all money derived is yours. Second, you can seek venture capital or angel capital. The disadvantage is that you will lose an appreciable part of your company. But, if you can't realistically raise the money, your company will starve instead of thrive. Without the money, you'd own ALL of something very small instead of part of something very large.

    That being said, your first task is to start where I recommended in my previous post. You start with the market and in particular, the value proposition and "pain" you will fix. The credibility of your case depend on the strength of this. Based on this critical point, you build a business plan. This business plan serves as your model and guide for building your company. The business plan should be chalk full of detailed action plans to push things along and measure against. When you have this plan, then you sell the plan. Like with any selling, you have to build rapport and trust and then meet the needs of the investors.

    Either way you go - sell the idea to another company, build a company with your own assets, or with investors' capital, the marketing work up front leading to a good business plan is a fundamental place to begin. Sure, intellectual property protection makes sense, too. But IP without marketing effort and resulting business plan will keep you from understanding and realizing the worth of your idea.

    Wayde
  • Posted by Mikee on Member
    Wayde has some great points. It is much easier to sell a product than an idea. Patents in and of themselves can be very tricky things. Sometimes that patent is so narrow that competitors can find a loop hole and get around it. The other end is that they are so broad that they do not stand up to a challenge. Patents are usually not a a guarentee. The companies that protect things well usually have many patents that a protect individual parts that without them all you can not create the whole. Patents can also take a long time and quite a bit of money.

    I say you go and and try to do this. Find people that can make the individual parts and assemble it yourself. This way you use people's expertise for the various parts, but no one is making the entire things except for you (this is what many manufacturers do anyways). It is really hard to say without knowing specifics.

    Mike
  • Posted on Author
    WOW....this is all so overwhelming, yet you gentleman have given me SO much. Wade, what you mentioned about the patent process is ONE of the big issues I was concerned with...how vague a patent could be, and are there people out there that have access to that patent information just waiting to "tweak" it a bit, who have more money than I do (that would be zero!) and take my idea and run with it. I'm not nieve' enough to think that once this product hits the market that it will be copied by someone, but I can still be the first one with the best quality!...at least that is my desire.
    Makine a prototype to propose to a potential manufacturer may be tricky as 2 of the components, I believe, will have to come from the medical equipment industry and the other main compoent I'm just not sure. The product I have in mind is for the digital photographic industry of which I am in. Professional photographers will find this item of EXTREME help to them as the camera manufactureres have yet to be able to address this issue on their own.
    I can fully see myself coming up with a detailed, logical, and do-able business plan, be able to educate the users on it's need and value, but I'm at a loss on how to actually make the item itself as I see it in my head and on paper. I feel a need for urgency as I'm sure someone down the line will come up with something like this for the same need that I have in due time.
    25+ years ago, while sitting in my living room, I had an idea that I thought would be very marketable but didn't know how to go about selling it....less than 10 years later, you could see it on almost all luxury vehicles being sold and I could kick myself in the....well, you know. When intermittent windshield wipers came out, I thought it would be awesome if you could install a windshield that was moisture sensitive and would turn your wipers on FOR you as needed. If anyone here knows cars, or drives a Lexus, you will see that my idea had great potential way back then! UGH!. So, with that mind set, and since this is only the 2nd SUPER idea I've had in 25 years, I have that "feeling" again and DO NOT want to lose it!
  • Posted by CarolBlaha on Member
    Patents can be broader than I imagined-- you need a lawyer and this is beyond the expertise of a marketing board. I work with a company that has a special printing on tiles- his patent is very broad-- it doesn't even spell out the process-- and he defends his patent vigoously. Tht will be part of your doing business.

    While I know from your side of the desk you are sure this is a great idea for a product (you can't patent ideas)-- send equal or more time researching bringing the product to market. I have seen more great product fail due to execution (sales, manufacturing) that great design.

    Go to a patent attorney. We can give you info based on experience from our side of the desk which can guide you-- but its reference only.

    Sell Well and Prosper tm
  • Posted by Jay Hamilton-Roth on Member
    A patent can protect your invention, but only if you have the money to defend it. Realistically, if your product is good and is selling, companies will knock it off. Figure out your goal: is it to sell the proven idea (manufacture it yourself, and sell to larger company once you have a revenue stream/buzz) or to start a new company (with this being one of the products in your stable)? People investing in your company will care about your goals, assuming your product is a "hit".
  • Posted on Author
    Gary~
    My target market is not as limited as I may have eluded to. Any individual, whether they are a hobbyist, semi-pro, or professional photographer that owns a digital SLR camera will benefit from this. There are literally millions of those cameras out there.!
  • Posted by wnelson on Accepted
    Vicki,

    Jay and Carol bring up so very good points with respect to intellectual property. I spent a good number of years working with IP as an engineering manager - and worked closely with IP lawyers. A good IP lawyer will make the patent as broad as possible so that people simply can't tweak the design and rip you off. However, patents are country specific. So, if you seek a US patent, you aren't covered in Europe or China or India or elsewhere. Broadness is only one aspect. Global coverage is another. If you haven't dropped by the USPTO site, it pays to read what they have: https://www.uspto.gov/

    Patents are stronger if you have actually made the product versus just came up with an idea. Taking your idea to a point where it exists is critical. If you can't do this on your own, you need a partner who can - who understands the engineering and manufacturing aspects and can create detailed drawings of the item. You can bind them with a non-disclosure/non-compete agreement - drafted by a good IP lawyer.

    A patent in itself is not very expensive and anyone can do it. However, a good IP attorney will provide you with a good patent search to make sure that your idea already is not patented and also to help make your patent stronger (usually wider in scope). That's one expense. Then, there's the expense of doing that in every country of interest.

    The other side of the story is a patent is NOT worth anything unless you are willing and able to prosecute for infringement. In fact, if you know of an infringement case and you DO NOT prosecute, everyone else has the right to infringe and you have no recourse. This aspect will require deep pockets, especially if the infringer is a big company!

    What this means is that chances are, unless you have a pile of cash sitting around, you need to pursue the business plan and find some investors for the cash to take this idea to fruition.

    Wayde
  • Posted by matthewmnex on Member
    Wow, this one really sparked lots of discussion and ideas :) Very enlightening. I enjoyed reading these posts.

    Matthew
  • Posted on Author
    LOL, Matthew! I've always been an overacheiver...what can I say!!! Yes, there has been some extremely helpful information here, of which I am very grateful for.

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