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Topic: Strategy

Ideas For Orthopedic Medical Devices

Posted by Anonymous on 25 Points
I am a practicing surgeon in India. I have certain ideas for medical devices which may make surgery faster, safer and easier. they involve high end electronics and instrumentation, and are essentially improvements/ symbiosis of existing machines. How do i get in contact with these manufacturers? How do i make them interested ? how do i protect my ideas, and make money out of them?
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  • Posted by wnelson on Accepted
    "Ideas" are worth absolutely nothing unless you demonstrate that someone wants to pay for them. The idea has to be the solution to a problem that is recognized and causes a lot of pain for your target consumer. How you prove this is through testimonials concerning the extent of the problem and how well your idea addresses the problem. The more "real" your idea is, the better. If you can prototype it and get doctors to use it and then give you testimonials, this presents a strong reason to believe in the commercial viability of the idea.

    How you protect your idea is through patenting the idea before you begin disclosing it to anyone. You may want to consider patenting in more than one country. This is more expensive, but will protect your idea better. As you begin talking with others, you also will want to have people sign non-disclosure agreements.

    As far as getting in tough with manufactures, having an existing company pick up someone's idea is very difficult. Most companies won't even talk to someone because once they do, if they were to EVER come out with a similar product, they would be open to a law suit. And a "little guy" suing a "big guy" usually will be biased against the big guy because people think big corporations are naturally evil. Your best bet is to develop your market yourself into a good niche. When you show viability and become noticeable to the companies who you would like to target, they will come to you.

    I hope this helps.

    Wayde
  • Posted by wnelson on Accepted
    Until you demonstrate this by doing some market research, your idea has no value. Here's an example: I have an idea for a write-only memory. It holds BILLIONS and BILLIONS of megabytes of data and it's the size of the head of a pin! It uses organic technology and it actually grows as long if you only add water. You can cut it off with a pair of scissors and use saliva to attach it to the computer. As time goes on, it continues to grow so you have more and more write-only memory. You can write and write and write data to it forever and it never fills up! Sounds like a wonderful product, right? It's probably worth ga-zillions of dollars! Only two problems...I've never been able to actually make one that works and once the data is written to the memory, you can't actually retrieve it. It's write-only. I'm pretty sure, even as wonderful as the idea is, that it's not worth anything because no one will actually buy it.

    My point about "value" is that it's the market who determines the value, not the person who has the idea. Taking an idea to market costs money. Even protecting it takes money. Unless you have it already, then you are going to want to convince potential investors that the idea has merit. Merit means commercial viability - people have an unsatisfied need or are experiencing pain because your idea doesn't exist as a product. Certainly, you might get friends and family to throw cash your way solely based on your say-so and enthusiasm. But absolutely no sophisticated investors will buy into your idea without a modicom of proof that enough people will actually buy it for a price that generates lots of cash flow and profit. And no existing company who manufactures an industry related product will pay much attention to your idea without proof it really works and many people will pay a price for it that generates cash flow and profit.

    Yes, protect the idea so you can go talk to people and understand if the idea really addresses an unsatisfied need or a pain and that someone will actually pay money to address that need or pain.

    Wayde

  • Posted on Author
    Mr Randall, my ideas are not STAR TREK league. they are workable. On the other hand advice from Wayde and phil is also to be factored. Shall contact you as soon as i understand the power of the beast i hold in my hand.
  • Posted on Author
    Mr Randall, my ideas are not STAR TREK league. they are workable. On the other hand advice from Wayde and phil is also to be factored. Shall contact you as soon as i understand the power of the beast i hold in my hand.
  • Posted on Author
    Thanks Wayde and Phil.
    the work that you have chalked is way out of my cloistered environment of hospitals and trusting patients, we docs have not been taught these aspects of management. Your suggestions make sense. I shall try to follow the path you have outlined, have i bitten off more than i can chew or is it---- Nothing ventured nothing won.
  • Posted by wnelson on Member
    I'm sorry, I missed the first line, "I am a practicing surgeon..." It makes a huge difference knowing you are a doctor. After all, a doctor developing and using the invention has a lot more credibility than I would have. Besides that, you have access to other docs to use it (after signing a non-disclosure agreement, of course), and give data as well as testimonial (depending on if you are legally allowed to use it in a clinical setting). AND with access to doctors who have used and believe in your invention, this may provide you a great source of funding - as them to invest! At the very least, you could get commitment for the preliminary work - the international intellectual property work, prototype development, maybe some pilot development. Once that's done, then you can seek the backing of a big company to take it the rest of the way through clinical trials and agency approvals and then into manufacturing or as another "end-point" for this, selling to a big pharma who will manufacture it, sell it, and give you and your investors a royalty.

    As far as biting off more than you can chew, I would never try a medical procedure, even if I read a book on it and went to a med forum and discussed it. Doctors are trained professionals who have had years of schooling and practice on cadavers before trying a procedure on a patient. Marketing and business people are similarly trained professionals with years of schooling - only they don't let us work on business cadavers. So seeking help from professionals with your "patient" is a wise idea. I have worked with Randall and he is a very good professional. I would recommend you talk with him.

    Wayde
  • Posted on Author
    thanks, i never expected such active interest. fact is, I have an idea. It is practical. From the manufacturer's point of view, it is a product which is make able.Med devices cannot be made in backyard garages, and even if they could be, i am not trained to . If i get an interface with a company or persons ready to put their weight behind the project, i could give them a blue print, and then important inputs regarding product development and pitfalls to avoid as the project takes shape. Naturally, all the hard work from product dev to approvals to marketing and then profiting shall have to be done by them, and i am willing to settle for a just consideration for my intellectual property.
    ashwani
  • Posted on Author
    sounds interesting and interested. Will contact you soon.

  • Posted by steven.alker on Accepted
    You’ve got some good offers of assistance here from people who know what they are on about.

    I would caution you to personally attend to two bits of vital reading to give yourself an understanding of the hurdles you will need to overcome concerning the manufacture, marketing and sales of medical devices.

    You ideas as a surgeon will lead to ideas which will, you hope, if designed correctly and manufactured accordingly solve certain orthopaedic problems.

    To retain ownership of the ideas, if they are truly novel, you need to attend to patenting the concept and doing so in some detail.

    If you want anyone to believe you, you will need to conduct trials on the prototypes and publish the findings a peer reviewed learned journal.

    You will need to find a manufacturing partner who will take some up-front risk and produce a batch of equipment for a wider trial – if you want it to undergo clinical trials, even the ones specified by the European medical Devices Directorate and the relevant American standards – the originators of these standards are as follows:

    The Association for the Advancement of Medical Instrumentation (AAMI), ASTM International, British Standards Institute (BSI), International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC) and International Organization for Standardization (ISO)

    Once you’ve got past the requirements of these standards, you can then, in conjunction with your partners proceed to mass manufacturing and marketing the devices.

    Not surprisingly, the original design you have conceived will probably be subject to many revisions in the course of this process and in order to keep your stake in the venture, you will need to ensure that you have frames a suitable contract about three stages back!

    Good luck – it’s hard work and I have steered a couple of products through this morass, but in 2009 the road is longer, the hurdles higher and the process is more expensive – hopefully on the pockets of your development and manufacturing partners. If your idea is novel, viable and beneficial, they will gladly put up with this as it affects every single thing that they make.

    Best wishes


    Steve Alker
    Xspirt

    PS Who says we do this only for points!
  • Posted on Author
    Thanks Steve,
    Yes the road is steep, but i shall not let up now. Personally, i am overwhelmed by the interest generated. you guys are truly altruistic.
    The road map chalked out is miles out of my league but i shall continue with my baby steps for now.

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