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Topic: Strategy

Big Idea Little Knowledge And Time

Posted by Anonymous on 250 Points
I have an awesome idea that was born out of being a mother of 3 small children.

Breakfast is one of the biggest markets in children's food. I have an idea that takes a breakfast food product already on the market and modifies it to be more appealling to children and more accepted by parents. The idea will reduce mess and will allow for a whole new line of breakfast on the go.

I already contacted some of the big breakfast companies who told me they are legally not allowed to hear any ideas.

I am trying now to make a prototype. once done, how do I contact the right people who may be interested in hearing and possibly buying the idea?
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  • Posted by wnelson on Accepted
    Your issue is common. You have a great idea and the way to make it an instant success is to have a big company take it on. Big companies won't listen to you because if they do, and it happens to be an idea they are already working on and if they bring it to market after hearing your idea, you will think they stole the idea. And the litigious society we live in just loves to get a fat fish on the line and play to the average (read that as peer) community's desire to "stick it to the man" in favor of the "little people."

    One of the best ways to get their attention is to establish yourself and take away their market share. This takes time and money, however. Especially in the case of "breakfast foods for children." Plus, once you get it out there, it's not easy to protect yourself from the big companies copying your idea and driving you out of business with larger economies of scale.

    You can get around the "money" problem by putting together a great business plan and selling it to Angels or VC's. But your biggest challenge is to find a way to patent or copywrite your idea or have some hard-to-derive trade secrets. Possibly it's your packaging. Or the machine that makes the packaging or packages the product. This intellectual property is the "value" in your idea. Without it, you really have no value because anyone else in the world can think of the same idea and make it happen also. Talk to a good intellectual property attorney to see if you can get some IP protection for your idea.

    Short of this, you can always try to network your way in. Look to networks like "Linked In" for ways to approach the right execs at the "big guys" and see if you can get an informal meeting or phone call. Work your way down to the littler big guys - they might be more accommodating because their pockets aren't as deep and they are looking for a way to compete at a higher level. Even here, you run the risk of your idea not being very valuable unless you have some intellectual property in it.

    Not a rosy picture, I know. But, it's reality. I hope this helps.

    Wayde
  • Posted by Frank Hurtte on Member
    if you haven't done so already, secure the services of a patent attorney. If your idea is patentable, and you have a patent pending. The bigger companies will be more open to listening.

    The patent serves as a intellectual property survey. Marking off boundries, establishing some definition, etc.
  • Posted by mgoodman on Accepted
    You're getting the right advice here ... probably from folks who have been there and done that.

    Once you have appropriate legal protection for your idea, you'll need to develop a business plan and go into some kind of test market situation to prove that real humans will actually spend real money on your idea -- that it has commercial value.

    Of course, that means you'll need to market the product yourself (or with an experienced marketer). Most people miss the import of that. The world does not beat a path to your door just because you have a better mouse-trap. It might if you market it properly, but not without that kind of awareness.

    There are a number of folks on this forum who can guide you through the process, but (a) they would need to be compensated, and (b) they probably wouldn't touch it unless you have appropriate legal protection or some other barrier to knock-off.

    While I certainly don't want to discourage you, I think we'd be doing you a disservice if we recommended proceeding, spending your money on marketing, or going public with a "knock-off-able" idea that could jeopardize the ultimate success of your brainchild.

    Good luck. Let me know if I can be of further help. I've been through this drill many times (i.e., helped people with a great idea test the market potential).

  • Posted by mgoodman on Member
    You might want to check out the MarketingProfs seminar titled Why Most Small Businesses Fail (and How to Avoid Being One of Them). There's also a how-to guide that goes with it.

    These won't address the need for legal protection, but they'll sensitize you to the business and marketing issues that you'll face, and give you some direction on how to avoid common pitfalls.
  • Posted by Chris Blackman on Member
    Ideas are three a penny. Yours only has any value if it is legally protectable through a patent, design registration, copyright or similar, AND someone is interested in buying the rights from you.

    OR you figure a way to make money from it yourself - commercialising the concept (although you still need to protect it to avoid others reverse-engineering or stealing the idea.

    Big FMCG companies have people on staff just thinking up new ideas all the time. Chances are they've already thought of whatever you've thought of - but maybe not.

    If you explain or otherwise publish the idea, btw, you make it very difficult to patent, so don't talk to anyone before you talk to a patent attorney or IP law specialist.

    Good luck.

    ChrisB
  • Posted by wnelson on Member
    I "do" this type of work, but would not do you justice because I don't come with ready-made contacts in the breakfast cereal industy. So, I would never take you on as a client. You may know this, but I want to state if anyway just to make sure you know it. Please be weary in selecting someone to help you of their relationships and experience. Consultants often misrepresent themselves as experts and take on business they shouldn't (me not being one of them). Get references and scutinize their capabilities to match you to manufacturers and sales channels so that you can cash in on your idea. Since your idea has no true intellectual property position, as you say, you have a limited time to capitalize on it before everyone else will copy it. You really can't afford to pick the wrong guy the first time.

    Good luck!

    Wayde
  • Posted by Jay Hamilton-Roth on Accepted
    Not knowing the details, I'll give one idea: Create a device that you "load" the breakfast into, so it's brand-neutral. If this isn't patent-able, then you'll need to test it locally, and attempt a "big splash" by showing it on American Inventor or selling it on QVC and attempt to outrun the knock-offs.
  • Posted by Inbox_Interactive on Member
    At the risk of not contributing anything, I have to say that I find this thread fascinating.

    I think the most important thing here is, "Are the two components of your product available to you from many sources, or are they brand- or manufacturer-specific?"

    For example, there was chocolate. And there was peanut butter. Then someone (arguably one of the world's smartest persons, at least in my opinion) said, "If we put these two things together, they will taste really good!"

    And the Reese's Peanut Butter Cup was born...

    Anyone could buy chocolate, and anyone could buy peanut butter. But someone decided to merge the two, forever changing the planet...and my waistline.

    How similar is your idea to the jam/bottle analogy? If it's close, I'm not sure how you turn that into a business, since you would need first to get into the jam business (keeping the analogy intact), which I don't think you want to do.

    I think your biggest concern is the ease with which this product could be knocked off (absent a patent) by a much larger company.
  • Posted by mgoodman on Member
    If you want someone to help you market the idea, then you should probably post your project on the "Hire an Expert" forum. Just click on the "Post a Project" link in the right column on this page.

    Your original question didn't say that you wanted someone to get involved with you, or I would have suggested this at the beginning.

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