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Certificate Programs

Posted by Anonymous on 250 Points
I am interested in making a career change into marketing. I have little business background, but think I would make a good fit. I am researching certificate programs that would take 6 months - 1 year to complete. I am interested in California and the East Coast (preferably NY, PA, MA).

1. Do certificate programs hold any weight on resumes?
2. Is this the best way to go if I have no experience?
3. What are some good programs out there? (I've looked into UCLA and Wharton. For some reason Wharton, although a great name, seems to offer only 4 classes for $12K while UCLA offers 12 classes for $6000.)

Thanks!
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  • Posted by Gary Bloomer on Accepted
    Dear Keliason,

    You're in the one of many right places. But what you may want to figure out is what aspect of marketing?

    Brand-based? PR? Direct response? Large corporation? Small business? Consultant? Teacher? Advisor?

    What might you DO with your certification, were you to get it?
    And with technology being what it is, you could work anywhere.

    Your best asset right now is your desire to learn and I suggest you search for a local connection first. Which companies within your area could you ask for advice? Who might you seek out as a mentor? What group might you join as a member of a mastermind group?

    Taking six months to a year to complete a certification course is a good beginning. But going into the workplace, you'd be starting pretty low down the totem pole.

    What are your skills and interests? Are you good with people or better with copywriting, concepts, or management?

    Above and beyond everything else, marketing is about meeting the needs of customers and connecting goods and services with felt needs, desires, dreams, and aspirations.

    You also need to do as much reading as possible. Books by Dan Kennedy, Roy Williams (The Wizard of Ads), and others will cut through most if not all of the BS you'll hear about synergy this and synergy that. So seek out their stuff and move from there.

    I hope this helps. Good luck to you.

    Gary Bloomer
    Wilmington, DE, USA
  • Posted by Jay Hamilton-Roth on Accepted
    Start by looking at your end goal. Have you thought about your ideal job/company/location? If you know (or even if you're unsure), invest your time in doing informational interviews. Find out what people who are doing things that look interesting/fun to you did to get their job, what they're looking for in new hires, and paths to success. You might get lucky and find someone willing to mentor your learning process or even find an intern possibility (to try out the field before spending time/money taking classes).
  • Posted on Author
    Here's a part of an email I sent to someone I know in marketing:

    Here’s a little background on myself. I have a B.S. in Journalism at the University of Oregon from about 8 years ago. I’m now looking to make a career change into marketing. I have virtually no marketing experience, however I have a bit of experience in operations when I founded and ran a small fashion company. I’m not sure of exactly the best way to break into marketing nor do I have a super solid grasp on exactly what different type of marketing positions there are. (I know it depends a lot on the setup of the company and how they choose to run things.) I realize that I’m at a fair disadvantage to those who just graduated with an undergraduate degree or an MBA, but I’ve got to start somewhere, right?

    Right now, I see my options as:

    1. Trying to just get a job/internship and work my way up. This may be challenging with the job market as is.
    2. Taking post baccalaureate classes to get a certificate. (UCLA, Berkeley, Wharton) I fully understand that a certificate on a resume doesn’t mean much. It’d be more so that I could get a better understanding on how marketing works and not seem like a complete dunce on my first day working somewhere.
    3. Going back to school to get an MBA. May be something more worthwhile to get down the road should I need it.

    Right now, I think I’m leaning towards a combination of the first two. I’m doing a lot of reading on the subject, but I feel like without a small bit of formal education, I’d be a little lost. Hopefully I’d be able to maintain some sort of marketing internship while I attend some UCLA extension classes.
  • Posted by Gary Bloomer on Accepted
    Dear Keliason,

    The portion of the e-mail you sent to the person in marketing? My dear, it’s doing you NO favours AT ALL!

    One of many of the golden rules in marketing is to think of your message from the recipient’s viewpoint.

    As a general rule I’m sure that most university tutors don’t teach stuff like this, but they bloody well ought to!

    At the moment your message talks about you, you, and you.

    Your reader doesn’t really care about you dearie; they care about themselves and what it is that you can do to help them.

    With me?

    What your message really needs to do is talk about the things you can do for the reader. The tone of your message needs to instill commitment, credibility, belief, and trust; it must project enthusiasm and benefits to such a degree that your reader feels compelled to dive across their desk to get to the phone. That’s what your message needs to project and that’s currently what you message does not do. So you need to fix it.

    You’re doing a lot of reading on marketing? Good. Now, crank up those efforts. Consume marketing. Live, it, breathe it, eat it and sleep with it.

    I mean this. You MUST, ass you point out in your post, you MUST get a better understanding on how marketing works and not seem like a complete dunce on my first day working somewhere. THIS IS VITAL. Read your buns off and MAKE NOTES. Then re-read your notes and let it all sink in.

    If you feel going back to school will help and if you can afford it, then by al means, do so. But your background in journalism? I’m going to upset a lot of people with the following statement, but it’s my considered belief: journalism is not marketing.

    A background in journalism might give you a decent grounding in writing, but being able to write in journalize is NOT the same as being able to craft a compelling headline, a list of subheads, a list of benefits and values, offers, calls to action, and risk reversal that all SELLS the product or service to the lead or customer.

    Journalism is about reporting facts and often, about putting one’s own angle on things. Marketing is about selling through compelling, effective persuasion. Song writing and poetry are similar, but again, the two things are NOT the same.

    As well as your first point above, you need to find a mentor, (or several mentors) in your local business community, or via your contacts at college. Don’t haunt these people, but ask for help and, more importantly, ACT ON THEIR ADVICE.

    I hope this helps.

    Gary Bloomer
    Wilmington, DE, USA
  • Posted by Gary Bloomer on Member
    Dear Keliason,

    Whoops! Apologies for the typos.

    Gary Bloomer
    Wilmington, DE, USA
  • Posted on Accepted
    I'm in the same boat as you are. I've finished my GE at a city college and am trying to figure out where I will go with a degree in Marketing. I still have about 2-3 years until I get a degree, but with the economy I need a job. So I figured I would start off at the bottom and get a couple of certificates as I continue my degree. This is one of the best sites I've found with the tools and blogs. Seeing as you have a degree in journalism you might look into PR or consultant. I have found sales as my expertise. Dealing with clients and their consumers.

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