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New Civil / Structural Engineer Need Career Advice

Posted by Anonymous on 250 Points
I graduated from civil engineering overseas in 2002, when i came to the US, i had no idea where to start, from my job searches, i worked as project engineer in 2 general contractor firms in New jersey for short period of time ( 6 and 4 months ) , i was thinking that i would like to be in the construction management side of engineering, but i never felt that this " was me" in these 2 positions ( paperwork mostly ) , i thought that i would like to work as an ENGINEER, so i guessed it is the structural engineer position i should be applying for, i kept trying for long time, but my resume was not strong enough to land a structural engineer 1 position, to meet my financial obligations, i started to work as sales in auto dealership, and i found out that i'm from the top Salesmen between 30 salespeople, i know how to sell, communicate, i speak 3 languages, and i did this for almost 2 years..

Now, my dilemma is this, even though i felt some sort of challenge, and achievement in car sales, it's not what i want to do for a career, it's not me.. I am 31 years old now, and i'm supposed to be in the "strong" career phase of my life, yet i don't know where or what to start.. i enjoyed sales, but i want to work as an engineer.. i wish there was something that combine both of them, but if had to make a choice, i think i'll choose engineer, now how can i start, "again" ? should i pursue a degree from a university in the US? master? bachelor? should i just keep applying with my overseas degree and my big gap of experience? I really need advice..
Thank you
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  • Posted on Accepted
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    There are many companies that need and want engineers and engineering skills in their sales representatives. The sales reps essentially serve as consulting engineers, bringing the company's solutions to engineering situations, and developing long-term relationships with customers who are themselves engineers.

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  • Posted on Accepted
    I also had similar dilemma for a couple of year ago, so I would talk from my own experience.
    In the first place, I would start with taking a decision, what do I really want to do? You seem not to be very happy with your current position, but you get money to live. You are also quite successful as a sell person and success always make feeling good and strengthen ones self-confidence. At the other site you've always wanted to be an engineer, you've graduated and spend some time on applying for this positions. To help yourself to decide, you can imagine yourself keeping the job you have (I mean it precisely: closing eyes and imaging you going to work, coming home, spending time with a family) and noticing how do you feel while doing it. And than imagine what your life would be if you though decide to work as a engineer.

    If you decide to get your dream job as an engineer, you have to realise the path could be difficult. You may have to start from the lower position to get experience, you may get less money at the beginning. But I assume, you would be so much determinate to your task, that it would be worth it.
    To have bigger chances in getting your dream position you should get know people in this industry (I think people get jobs not only because they have needed knowledge and experience – but mostly because somebody just liked them – it could be an answer for your doubts about your overseas studies). In order to get now the right people you could become a member of an engineers association, you could visit construction fairs, you could go to the nearest university and talk to some professor or join an Internet forum for engineers and take part in discussions, where you can prove your knowledge and be seen by someone. Taking up a course or pursuing a degree is also a possibility, but start with finding out if it would be enough if you take some exams, so your degree would be recognised in US? You can also look for a work agency, which is specialised in the industry, you are interested in, but I wouldn’t just send a CV – I would rather get an appointment with the consultant, so I could convince her/him, that despite a lack of experience I’m still a very good potential employee.

    If you are quite positive that working as a engineer will make you a happier person, than go for it and don't let yourself to be discourage for example by you age. I thing it’s better to strain yourself for a while and than be a happy person for the rest of your life.
    Good luck!
  • Posted by Frank Hurtte on Accepted
    First... I love your question. You are in a fabulous position. Engineering skills AND sales/communications talent. This is in very short supply. There are just a handful of people in this world who walk in our shoes. Notice I said "our". I am an engineer too.

    Have you considered becoming a sales engineer. I was a computer engineer by training, and I used that talent to become an expert in automation and motion control. But I discovered early on, the greatest opportunities lie in that very small pool of people who can speak to business people and engineers - a translator between the world of technical and the world of business.

    If you would like to contact me via my profile, I would be thrilled to talk about the world of sales engineering.
  • Posted by thecynicalmarketer on Accepted
    Many people are faced with this same dilemma. You are very fortunate to have choices because of your multiple skills.

    If you like engineering and are good at sells - sell to engineers. Most use expensive tools including custom workstation equipment and very expensive custom software applications. It is always a challenge for a custom software application developer/publisher to find someone who can understand the use of their software and also be able to close the deal.

    Lastly, you're young, so continue to go to school while you work. It gets harder as you get older.

    Best of Luck I am sure you will be successful, JohnnyB.
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  • Posted by Jay Hamilton-Roth on Accepted
    First, stop fretting about being in your "strong" career phase. Find what really will make you professionally happy. It sounds like you stumbled into sales, and you were successful. Based on your description, it sounds like it's your second choice - your heart is in engineering. I'm sure in your area there's a professional organization of civil/structural engineers. Join it. Find out what people are doing. Find out what companies are hiring. What skills are they looking for. Find some mentors who can give you some clear advice - perhaps finding you an internship to get your skills current. You ability to sell may be a bonus to someone hiring you, and you may wish to parlay that into a position where you engineer 50% of the time and sell 50% of the time (if that's of interest to you).

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