Know-How Exchange : Website Critique

hi Unfortunately there are so many with this kind of offer and very very similar web pages

Wow Dave, my opinion is that if someone signs up for this life changing program, you make money. Not a good way to use this site...if you want to market something, at least be upfront about it...I mean, come on, your name is actually IN the affiliate url...

Dave,

I can't speak for ALL people in the world - they haven't nominated me to do so yet. But, from my own perspective, I think of this NOT as a business, but as a sleazy scam. It promises vast riches very quickly with hardly any work. I believe in ancient Greece, alchemists had similar promises with respect to turning lead into gold. P.T. Barnum is credited with saying, "There's a sucker born every minute..." - although he probably never really said that. Most likely, the con-artist Joseph ("Paper Collar Joe") Bessimer actually said it. And most likely this "business" is a "con" meant to attract suckers so the website owner can attract suckers...or, the "methodology" espoused behind the website is aimed at "other suckers" upon whom the purchasers of the "secret" can prey.

I didn't enter my email address to find out who the man behind the curtain is - because I don't trust the site enough to do that. Possibly, they could steal my email and use it to spam to a million addresses in Russia or something.

Successful businesses and wealth are built on hard work and creativity, not on very publicly available "secrets."

I hope this helps.

Wayde

lol, not everything is as it appears to be,, people are paying for actual products, what the company decides to do with the money is completely up to them

Not the point at all. I believe that people are paying for products and I don't care what the company does with the money afterward if it's obtained honestly. I am suspicious that the product delivers the grand promises.

Oh, and if this "method" is so wonderful that it will deliver $75,000 monthly with little or no effort, it would seem that the "author" of said method would be right up there with Bill Gates and Warren Buffet. If so, why's the website so "out of brand" with that calibre of person? Well, I guess technically, this website looks better than www.berkshirehathaway.com - so maybe the author is in the range of Warren Buffet. :)

Anyway, you asked for opinions, that's what we gave.

no sir, you didn't watch the video,, it wont deliver $75,000 monthly with no work, I'm working my butt off to advertise, (they do allow you to have instant access to $75,000 worth of software once you join, they do have some really good products.

but people in the business are getting $15,000-$30,000 a month, just getting 15 -30 sales, it's not like they are saying you will be a millionaire by tomorrow

and by the way it takes alot to reach a level that warren buffet is at :-)

by the way there is something that the kids are saying these days, it's called working SMART, rather than HARD, leveraging time, and harnessing the power of the internet and an Automated system. :-)

Good for you! Glad it's working out for you. However, you asked opinions. That's what you got.

Working SMART versus working HARD - the "kids" just didn't come up with that. It's been around since the dinosaurs left. Leveraging time, automated systems - that's not brand new either.

However, given the power of communications today, there are no "arbitrages." As soon as something is available to redistribute wealth, unless there's locktight intellectual property protection, everyone has it immediately. And as soon as everyone has it, there is no longer an advantage - the playing field is even. Therefore, there is no more ability to get wealthy quickly. That is, unless the scheme is a sham. Then, those who make the promises collect. It's how pyramid schemes work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme By doing nothing more than enlisting a few people, you can get rich off residuals. The problem with these kinds of deals is that there is no one at the bottom of the pyramid because everyone is part of the scheme. So the initial ones in make all the money, the rest just lose their initial investment.

The internet is full of "get rich quick" offers. And every one of they "really work." And every one of them is a "secret" until you make your investment. And every one of them has tremendous video testamonials from "real people" who absolutely swear by them. I get a hundred emails a month on how to use the "power of the internet" to get rich - for just minutes a day. Get the secret of success. Nothing to sell, just sit back and wait for the money to roll in. There's ads on TV and the radio - "Smart like a fox," for instance, is one ad. Just read the book and you're a millionaire over night.

Yep, no doubt that someone is getting rich from it. Probably the people making the promises.

But, back to your question: I'm wondering if I can get peoples opinions of this business

Given how the web page presents itself, it looks like all of the other "too good to be true" opportunities out there. The "presentation" comes across in such a way that it raises my suspicions - which I have explained in great detail above. Because of this, it am wary to investigate further because it may be a waste of my time (and possibly money) at best, or download some virus at worst. And THAT is what I think of this business.

I hope it works out for you. Good luck.

Wayde

My impression is likewise not good. A business website is normally transparent - showing you the services or products it offers. This website hypes results, but doesn't show the services/products unless I fill in an opt-in form. That turned me off immediately.

Sites like this are aimed at a certain group of people...people who are desperate to make more money but really don't have a business idea of their own.

It's all the same...they call it network marketing, but at the end of day, most of these are pyramids. If you don't add new customers, you don't make any money. Network marketing can be great, but it's only legit (in my opinion) if you are spending your time selling a product or service, not opportunities to sell a product or service that you, yourself, don't really even sell.

Will people make money with this? Yes, of course. Some will get rich. Most, however, will only chalk this up to their list of experiences, and then they will move on to the next great opportunity, declaring (each time) that, "This is the one!"

Why people are afraid of good ol' fashioned hard work is beyond me.

I'll just say a couple of things and then let them speak for themselves (sort of). I won't post the links I used because that would be very close to posting personal information, something I don't think is right.

Having said that...

It's easy to find out the name and address of the person who registered the domain name for the primary business (blessings4utoday.com).

It's easy to find out that this person owns the property at that address.

It's easy to determine what kind of property it is and what it's worth, more or less (mobile home assessed for less than $60,000, including land).

I think it's safe to make some determinations about a person's income and overall financial situation by the value of a property that they appear to live in.

Based on my findings, I don't think I'd pin my hopes and dreams on getting into this business. At the very least, even if I ended up making money at it, I would feel pretty bad about the trail of people I'd leave behind who felt they had made a mistake.

I am in no way putting down someone for living in a modest home. I am merely suggesting that one needs to "beware the naked man who offers you his shirt."

My $0.02.

I wanted to weigh in here one more time just in the hopes that my experiences may lead others to have even better ones in their lives...

A supposed good friend of mine...in a networking group with me, in the Chamber of Commerce, you get the picture, invited me to lunch. I certainly thought they wanted to have a one on one, or discuss the magazine they own that I advertised with but no...in fact, what they did was downright dishonest. When I went to lunch, there was a doctor there...there were cd's and brochures for me there and all they wanted to do was get me in their MLM program. I personally know thousands of people and have many others as customers around the world...could I do well in MLM? Sure...I even dabble in some products that are consistent with helping people develop referral relationships, BUT, they basically lied to me. They covered up significant information in hopes of TRICKING me into joining. THis practice, as repeated dozens of times, led them to be kicked out of a very large organization, and they are now ostracized by a large group of people for unsavory business practices. Now...had they said "Mac, this is what i am doing...X...now, you may or may not be interested at all, and i respect that, but as a friend, would you mind taking a look at the opportunity and telling me what you think?"

This website does not disclose information...it tries to collect your info without telling you what the heck it is you'll be doing, herein lies the rub.

Dave, if you truly want to be successful, then pick a product or service that you don't have to apologize for when talking about it...be proud, shout it out loud! Then network with as many people as you can, the PROPER way...i.e. finding ways to help THEM before you expect to do business with you...the key is developing referral relationships that pay off BIG year after year...now, if you are going the website way, which I myself DO offer products via a sales site, give as MUCH info as you can about the product...give info about yourself to build your credibility...you get the idea.

Again, Dave, if you want to rap about this one on one, I would be glad to help...if your intentions are true, then you should have the same chances at success as everyone else...but be forewarned...EVERY single company like this ALWAYS has folks making $75,000 or MORE monthly...the problem is...it is REALLY hard to meet or get to know these people....;-)

my $0.02 as well

I am proud of this company, they have amazing software that you can use, and no they don't have viruses, they specialize in wealth creation , they have software and e-books, and in fact if you actually watched the compensation plan video, you would see that they have made it fair for everyone, and you would never saturate the market, there are 3 people born a second,, and I'm pretty sure the internet is not done growing, but it's like all things really. take Donald trump, see he got in on it, when there wasn't nearly the amount of competition as there is today, so he made money, BIG MONEY, so to say that
Donald trump, isnt like this type of business would be wrong, yeah there is lots of competition out there, but you just have to play your chips right, and you could still be successful in that market too. and I dont care what it is your selling, just because your selling dreams doesn't mean that you would run out of people, BESIDES, they do have products for you to download once you join, it's not like your giving money away. I don't care really if you don't consider Software and e-books products, if software isn't a product, then Vista, and Microsoft Office 2007, should be pulled off the shelve, or at least lower their price from $900 to $100. besides people that are working at a job, are the ones who are being scammed, they have to wake up to an alarm clock everyday, and go make someone rich.. at a job, you will NEVER make as much money as the person at the top..

I can tell you all that this is not a Pyramid, a pyramid, is a company that only gives out money for signing people up, and ONLY that, you can resell any of the products that you get once you join. so that makes it legitimate,, besides with a pyramid, you can never get higher than the person above you, not with this, with this, I could have just started, and I could get 4 more sales than my sponsor in a month, based on how much advertising I do, and BOOM, I'm doing better than the person above me, the reason why they do business like this, is to save money on advertising, now it's just word of mouth... I think it's smart, so they aren't like every company out there, that has to cram their stupid products in your face every time you watch TV, or flash their stupid Macdonald's subliminal message while your watching the Food Network. Oh yeah and the reason why they want you to put in the information is so that I can get your phone number, and email address,, obviously, or how else am I going to get a sale? and lots of companies do this, its normal, it's not unethical, it's common practice. and no you don't have to download a virus to see the video,, I don't see why people are so afraid of everything these days, we have been conditioned and brainwashed to believe that everything is a scam, it's true it may not work for everyone, but it's only fair, the people that put the work in are the ones that should be reaping the benefits.

so in my opinion, they have products, they do their business/advertising online, they created a compensation plan that's fair. they are not a pyramid because, I could do better than the person above me. and what the company decides to do with the money is up to them, more companies should be like that, instead of being so god damn greedy, and charging $900 for a CD that they copied a hundred million times. at least this company is being generous. so for all you that believe this business is easy, your wrong it takes effort, it's not a get rich quick scheme, they have just made the sales ammount high enough that you can make good money...

Other claims people have made -

-The Earth is flat
-Franchising is illegal
- Sam Walton will never have a successful business
- OJ is not Guilty (my personal favorite),
- 9/11 was not an inside job

I just felt like throwing those last 2 in. dont have to do with the first 3, but similar.

well actually they do, they have to do with peoples uneduacted opinions and assumptions, and things they don't want to accept because they don't understand, and anything that is difficult to understand is usually stamped with the "K.I.S.S theory" Keep It Simple Stupid theory, so people just assume an easy answer if they dont understand it, so they don't have to think, you may do it whether you know it or not, every single thing we do is to better our mind and bodies current state. EVERYTHING

Apparently, you aren't really interested in our opinions so much as you want us to sign up for your company and buy your product. And those of us that have given you our impressions and the reason why we have those impressions - not only are you not interested, but we are wrong in our opinions, "outdated old times" and (my favorite) uneduacted - which I assume you meant UNEDUCATED. Hmmmm. As uneducated and old timey as I am, I'm wondering...you aren't posting your question here as a way to have FREE ADVERTISING, are you?

haha maybe I am, but it's a dog eat dog world

Yeah, some dogs are just hungrier than others...and some never eat at all....

wnelson, what do you do for a living?

Business advisor and marketing professional - specializing in developing strategy, business plans, marketing plans. You can find more information on many of us in our profiles, including website addresses, if available, by clicking on our names.

"Yeah, some dogs are just hungrier than others...and some never eat at all...."

And some just chase their tails...

wnelson, your still trading time for money, and all the money in the world wouldn't by us a minute.

Dave -

You came here with an ulterior motive.

You posted a question on a site where professionals give away knowledge for which they could easily charge, in aggregate, millions of dollars. Thing is, you really weren't interested in the answer. You were just hoping to plug your (pitiful) business.

When you didn't get the responses you were hoping for ("Gosh, Dave, this sounds like what I've been looking for. TELL ME MORE!"), you resorted to what every other person in multi-level and network marketing does:

"This is different. You don't understand. You're still thinking the old way. Let me show you."

Blah, blah, blah.

There are no converts here for you. If there were, you'd have heard from them by now.

If you value your time so much, then do yourself (and everyone else here) a favor and move on to another forum where you're more likely to find some business. This ain't it.

yeah well, i like to prove my point, you know what, ur right, I'm in an illegal business, thats why they haven't been shut down yet, and they have products, oh no, they must be illegal, lol oh no, they are generous with their compensation plan, look out!

They have made it so you have ultimate leverage!, oh my god thats not being fair to anyone!

haha, get a clue, just because you don't think it is right, doesn't mean it isn't right. they have a legal disclosure and a 5 star rating a the Better Business Bureau.


this would be illegal, if all they did was pay people for enrolling, but they have products, so who cares if the company wants to give the money away, and collect a monthly fee, their choice

Your bold website claims:

"I went from bankruptcy to $75,000 MONTHLY within 45 days"
Bob Williams - Texas

This Movie allowed Gail to rake in $71,000 her first month!
Sally uses this Movie to earn as much as $6,700 in a single Day!
Corol earns over $1,100 Daily showing her Movie!
No Meetings
No Selling
No Phone Calls
No Rejection
No Bugging your Family and Friends

Your statement here: "it wont deliver $75,000 monthly with no work, I'm working my butt off to advertise"

So which is it? The easy path to $900,000 per year - $400,000 just showing this movie....

or you have to work your butt off advertising?

This is a clear misrepresentation! And you come on this forum - where professionals donate their talents to assist people with their marketing problems and ask for help when you are clearly looking for people to buy your product. More misrepresentation.

This might be "legal" for now. The BBB rating just means no one has reported you. Big deal. No reports doesn't mean no issues. Just means that no one took the time to report or knows who the parent corp is to report.

Legal doesn't mean ethical. Your behavior and the website behavior suggest you are misrepresenting. And your attitude suggests you are OK with this in a dog-eat-dog world. You are happy finding loopholes in the rules - as long as it suits your purposes. It's probably Darwinism - those that lose as a result of your misrepresentation - they deserve to lose! It weeds the pool over all.

This MarketingProfs group of seasoned professionals and experts in their field - who got there by educating themselves, learning all they can, and applying that learning - and who are working smart to the extremely - probably the smartest in the world - folks who have made and lost more money than the "get rich crowd" for this scheme will ever see - who have collectively seen everything there is at least once - yes, we're probably wrong and you are most likely right. Keep arguing with us - you show your colors and make our case with every post! Leave this post up there! I'm sure others will read it. I'm sure it will rank high in the search engines. And who are people who read this going to believe? Good job with your free advertising misrepresenting yourself on MarketingProfs! It's going to do well for you!

I think the last line at the bottom of the web site simply says it all.

'Results will vary upon individual effort. We make no guarantees that you will earn any monies
as your potential earnings are based upon your own efforts. Then again, you could'

And I'm immediately thinking... 'and monkeys could fly out of my butt too'.

The redirect from a domain name to another directory off a domain name, and no page rank, two hallmarks of 'another get rich quick' likely to be all hype, and no substance.

The Kabbulah states: 'unearned wealth is not yours to keep'.

exactly they arent promising that you will make $75,000 in 10 minutes, thats some results.

here video PROOF that it works


https://youtube.com/watch?v=eVDXV7lUY64
https://youtube.com/watch?v=S0U0NqWFXIU&feature=related
https://youtube.com/watch?v=mjIlo6Ics-Q&feature=related
https://youtube.com/watch?v=h9NlogRTsJo
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zKBHxxJ1Y50
https://youtube.com/watch?v=h9NlogRTsJo&feature=related

I cant FIND ANY NEGATIVE SITES ON PASSPORT TO WEALTH, TRY AND FIND 1 SITE, besides what you guys are saying

ok ,lol

it's all good, if you guys, don't understand the business it's alright, and if you really did not take the time to investigate the site, and assume something, that is alright as well,, I could assume that if I went into a black hole I would be transported into another dimension, but unless it actually happened, I wouldn't know for sure, now would I, anyways, thanks for your feedback, I will let you know how I do in a years time, for now let's just end this thread. thank you, and Good day.

I just came across this thread again, and noticed that more than TWO years on, Dave didn't come back with an update.

Maybe this means:

1. He's made so much money he's sipping Pina Coladas on his own tropical island.

OR

2. He has nothing good to report.

Either way, he hasn't lived up to his promise to give us an update in a year's time.

Which is what most of the above thread contributors had probably expected.