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Topic: Copywriting

Does My Bus Name And Each Design Need Copywriting

Posted by Anonymous on 250 Points
My sibling has a great idea for a business name and his T-shirt designs are very popular with all of his friends and other people he has shown his work to, but there are many t-shirts out there with all sorts of designs, obviously he is not the first. He has asked me to invest, I am very hesitant. Dont know where to start. Regarding marketing; I read one of your columns and it was very helpful with similar ideas I had thought of which is a good thing. I need to know if his business name and each design need to be copy written. I think the copy writing has me very confused and with much uncertainty. For the business name, isn't a fictitious business license enough with the city or county? Everything is going to be in my name because of his situation and I know I am taking a risk with no guarantee of any any returns. I need to know if we are doing this right. Any information would be very helpful and appreciated.

Sincerely,

CC

P.S. We are in California and have people in Miami that are already interested in wearing this design, so obviously they have already seen some of his work. This very much scares me.
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  • Posted by Gary Bloomer on Accepted
    Dear ing9450,

    Phil's right on many fronts and I SECOND his words of caution but I'll go one step farther. Slow your punk ass down!

    You tell us that this very much scares you. Good. It ought to.

    I also agree with Phil that you're too early in the game to be thinking about names.

    I'll answer your question about protection, then I think we need to have a cozy little chat about remaining on the right side of the law.

    YES, any and all designs are protected by US Intellectual Copyright Laws. This protection is automatic and you'll find more information on copyright here: https://www.copyright.gov/, because you're confusing copyright (the legal protection of intellectual material, including design work) and copy writing, meaning, the writing of sales copy or sales text in order to convey a sales message.

    As for all this "a fictitious business license enough with the city or county?" talk, you're insane! I mean, totally, utterly, barking mad.

    I'm NOT a lawyer but it took me all of fifteen seconds to learn that the California Department of Consumer Affairs (DCA) takes a very dim view of shenanigans like this and its Unlicensed Activity Unit (yes, there IS such a unit) works hard,—VERY HARD—to track down unlicensed individuals so that they can take action against them.

    What kind of action?

    Well, as of January 1, 2010 those caught contracting in California without a license for the first time will face six months in jail or a fine of up to $5,000.

    A second offense will cost you 20 percent of the contract price, or $5,000, whichever is greater and you'll be cooling your heels in the hoosgow for at least 90 days.

    Third time's a charm with ANOTHER 90 days in the chokey (which can
    be extended for up to to one year) AND a fine of between $5,000 and $10,000, or 20 percent of the contract price.

    And, according to California state law, anyone who uses an unlicensed contractor is a victim and is entitled to a refund, regardless of whether they knew the contractor was unlicensed.

    You need to be aware here that this forum is read by hundreds of thousands of people, many of whom live and work IN CALIFORNIA.
    All it takes is one person to report you and you'll be screwed, I mean ROYALLY FUBAR.

    So, following on from Phil's advice (and both Phil and I are known on
    this forum for telling it like it is, warts and all), stop.

    Then run.

    In the opposite direction.

    If your brother wants to borrow money, he needs to take out a loan.
    If his t-shirt designs are that good, his business, despite the fact that
    t-shirt companies are a dime a dozen, ought to do OK. But what he'd
    do better with is focusing on one niche within t-shirt design, and to
    then go narrow and deep.

    I hope this helps.

    Gary Bloomer
    Wilmington, DE, USA
  • Posted on Accepted
    I would only add that Gary and Phil are being too optimistic about this business venture. Things are not as rosy as they would have you think.

    Stop. Tell your brother this isn't comfortable for you, and find some other way to show your brother you care. (This is actually a very good way to demonstrate your concern for him, but he may not understand that right away.)
  • Posted by Peter (henna gaijin) on Accepted
    Here is a primer I wrote on intellectual property:
    https://expandabroad.blogspot.com/2005/12/intellectual-property-primer.html

    Some of what is being done (shirt designs, etc.) would be covered under copyrights, but others (business name, logo, etc.) would fall under trademarks.

    That blog post also links to a book by Nolo Press which covers these in detail, but actually I would buy and read a different book by Nolo Press, which covers most areas one would need to consider when starting a business. Along with intellectual property, it covers thinks like legal structure (LLC, partnership, etc.), DBA's, what forms needed to fill out to start a business, location, etc. I have read it many times, and am going through it again now for another start-up I am working on.
    https://expandabroad.blogspot.com/2005/08/start-up-book-recommendation.html

    There is a CA specific version, which if you will base the company in CA would be the one to get.
  • Posted by Jay Hamilton-Roth on Accepted
    Instead of trying to do it all, why not take his designs and upload a couple to a site like CafePress (https://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/sell/index.aspx?area=learn&page=learn)? That'll save you lots of headaches, and learn what people buy (and don't).
  • Posted by pghpromo on Accepted
    Jay has got a great suggestion. A few years ago, with just a handful of design ideas, my brother set up a design shop at Cafe Press (https://www.cafepress.com/tulsatees) and also at Zazzle (https://www.zazzle.com/TulsaTees). It's not making him rich (yet!), but he constantly chats up his site and adds fresh content, and so he has been able to generates monthly sales. If you go look at his pages you will see that he is able to maintain a portfolio and exchange feedback AND LINKS with other virtual shop-owners--invaluable tools and exposure to gauge what designs might be worth pursuing in more traditional venues outside of e-commerce.

    And, importanty, customers who find designs they like can still contact a virtual shop-owner if they want to bypass Cafe Press or Zazzle and work direct. So, in that sense, host sites like Cafe Press and Zazzle are marketing portals with broad reach--nice feature for someone just starting out with some designs.

    None of this requires business licenses or massive startup costs, as far as I know. So it might be a safe alternative to determine if your sibling's designs (and motivation) have some legs.

    --- Paul

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